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| Yes - but they're not asking for mentoring are they? They are asking us to write their course work for them. Mentoring IMO is helping people understand what they are learning and leading/pushing them onwards to their own enlightenment with the subject. To say that these people will be exposed once out into the big wide world isn't true. People can function for years without the certification that they say they've got - there was once case in the news a couple of years ago, a murder, where the main suspect was the victim's father who was a headmaster. During the course of the investigation it became apparent that he didn't hold the right qualifications to be a headmaster. I'm sure that the knowledge that he'd lied and cheated his way into a job couldn't have helped his defence much regarding the murder investigation. I applaud the idea of mentoring, as you suggest, but despise the idea of being paid to write cheap essays for lazy students.
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| On second thoughts, u do have a point, Alix .. and an indisputable one, i admit ....i am sure a student keen on getting mentored in any domain would choose a rather straightforward manner of doing so, rather than asking professionals to write essays for them at a cost .. Moreover it wud be rather foolish to assume that among those seeking such services, exist a chunk who are genuinely interested in learning something out of this rather dubious exercise .... I apologize for posting a rather distorted and immature point of view on this forum .. I wudn't mind if u consider my opinions unpublishable and decide to get rid of those from the forum ... I wud have no complaints whatsoever if u go ahead with it, but its been a worthwhile point of discussion, no doubt ..
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Hi!
Even being a newbie, I should say that for as little as 50$ I would never betray my principles. I’m a student myself and I think that the process of doing a good thesis involves more than a simple text, taken from the net. I mean, how well can we do their jobs? I may be good at Philosophy, but no one is good enough to make that kind of job, so quickly that it would still be profitable. I mean, it would take me months to do it properly. And 50$ doesn’t pay for that kind of research. I mean, don’t they end up with mediocre thesis?
I mean, where I come from, that’s a big issue. I study in Portugal, and here we have very strict rules. And if the teacher is doing his job, the student will not be able to just buy the work done.
As for the issue of people genuinely interested in learning, well, they would do some investigation, instead of buying it, don’t you think? I mean, there is no better way of learning than making the effort of doing the research and writing about it. That’s the point when the teacher asks for an essay. I don’t believe that a student that lazy can be tutored by one of us, get the essay made, and still learn something. Well, something, perhaps, but they will miss the point of the hole thing, won’t they?
Thank you,
Eva
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| There was a report on Radio 2 the other day that said that some students were so lazy about what they were copying from the internet that they were submitting essays that still had the internet adverts displaying! There was another report that indicated that parents were buying essays (from a reputable sample essay company) that their darling off-spring were going to submit as actual university/college work! The mind boggles! Perhaps the situation will now swing away from coursework back to exam performance?
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| I absolutely share and support the stance of those who will have nothing to do with students using this resource as a 'cheat factory'. I also think this sort of request ought to be banned by the site. A former academic and secondary school teacher (now retired), I thought I knew all the students' plagiarism tricks--but this stuff (paying a professional to do the work) is new and untraceable. Leaving the sheer dishonesty aside, ponder on the serious problem of people with sham degrees. Would any of us like to deal with a 'professional' who got his or her degree by proxy? What would be their level of expertise? It's frightening to think of the extent to which this practice, if widespread, could undermine community and academic standards. As I have put it to caught-out cheats over the years: You'd never get in the football team or play piano in a concert if you got your friend/sister/cousin/aunt to do your training/practice. They would develop the expertise: you wouldn't. Here in Sydney some years ago, some Indian students cynically played the race card. A final year school student had his university pure maths-enrolled cousin substitute for him in the HSC. Perhaps these boys thought the exam supervisors wouldn't know the difference--and they'd have been right because the exams are not supervised by teachers, but by externally employed staff. 'Unfortunately' for the cuplrits, their outraged classmates dobbed them in. As a consequence (and entirely appropriately), all HSC students now have to provide photo ID. I don't like the way the world's turning these days. Why is personal honour (not the sort that results in honour killings!!) old hat? Why can't business be done on a handshake and people keep their word? Enough of a rave.
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